| Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? | |
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dreadraptor85 Force Master Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 701 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 38 Location : California
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cannibalshinobi Senior Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 292 Join date : 2009-09-13 Age : 33 Location : Maple Valley, Washington
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:08 am | |
| i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:54 am | |
| - CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. | |
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Zombl337 Chief Warrant Officer 5
Posts : 1292 Join date : 2009-09-08 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:52 am | |
| They are usually within reason with their predictions when the NPD's are shown. | |
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cannibalshinobi Senior Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 292 Join date : 2009-09-13 Age : 33 Location : Maple Valley, Washington
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:56 pm | |
| - Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. | |
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gamerdude Seaman Apprentice
Posts : 39 Join date : 2009-12-17
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:57 pm | |
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Blixtstorm Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 2699 Join date : 2009-09-12 Age : 34 Location : SwÄ“oþēod/SvÃþjóð
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:11 pm | |
| - gamerdude wrote:
- Yes it's reliable
Well its mostly reliable, but they seem to lack some coverage of Europe. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:49 pm | |
| - CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. Well if you want to believe numbers that they just pull out of their ass then be my guest. Theres a good reason why VG Charts is banned as a source from certain forums. | |
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cannibalshinobi Senior Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 292 Join date : 2009-09-13 Age : 33 Location : Maple Valley, Washington
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:52 pm | |
| - Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. Well if you want to believe numbers that they just pull out of their ass then be my guest. Theres a good reason why VG Charts is banned as a source from certain forums. made up numbers are better than no numbers at all. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:03 pm | |
| - CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. Well if you want to believe numbers that they just pull out of their ass then be my guest. Theres a good reason why VG Charts is banned as a source from certain forums. made up numbers are better than no numbers at all. LMAO Seriously? How so? Why believe in something that isnt true? How is bs better than nothing? I would rather have the truth. Thats one of the dumbest comments I've ever read.
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J_Lee87 Seaman Recruit
Posts : 18 Join date : 2009-12-30
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:46 am | |
| I think they are some what reliable but they are the McDonalds of charts not everything you get is the real thing. | |
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cannibalshinobi Senior Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 292 Join date : 2009-09-13 Age : 33 Location : Maple Valley, Washington
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:30 pm | |
| - Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. Well if you want to believe numbers that they just pull out of their ass then be my guest. Theres a good reason why VG Charts is banned as a source from certain forums. made up numbers are better than no numbers at all. LMAO Seriously? How so? Why believe in something that isnt true? How is bs better than nothing? I would rather have the truth. Thats one of the dumbest comments I've ever read. well seeing as how those made up numbers are based on past numbers and other results. its called statistics, its not bullshit. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:51 pm | |
| - CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. Well if you want to believe numbers that they just pull out of their ass then be my guest. Theres a good reason why VG Charts is banned as a source from certain forums. made up numbers are better than no numbers at all. LMAO Seriously? How so? Why believe in something that isnt true? How is bs better than nothing? I would rather have the truth. Thats one of the dumbest comments I've ever read. well seeing as how those made up numbers are based on past numbers and other results. its called statistics, its not bullshit. The European numbers are bullshit because we dont receive public data from Europe or the UK. So there is no past data to base it on. | |
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dreadraptor85 Force Master Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 701 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 38 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:51 pm | |
| Then what site would give just facts? | |
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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 31 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:24 pm | |
| It's the best we have. I say it's credible. | |
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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 31 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:57 pm | |
| - Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- Master_Chief wrote:
- CannibalShinobi wrote:
- i would say its credible after a while. what they do there is use past data and early numbers to predict the numbers and when final data is out from actual sources, such as NPD, they correct their numbers accordingly.
Yes they do adjust their NPD numbers for example when the official source proves them wrong. But their European numbers are pure guesswork since we dont get any official reports from the European territories including the UK. We will however get world wide hardware numbers when the 3 companies release their quarterly reports. well with that then they just might be the best sources then. if there aren't any official sources in EU then guess work is all way have then, making VGchartz one of the leading sources for that region. they might not be remotely correct but its the best we got. Well if you want to believe numbers that they just pull out of their ass then be my guest. Theres a good reason why VG Charts is banned as a source from certain forums. made up numbers are better than no numbers at all. LMAO Seriously? How so? Why believe in something that isnt true? How is bs better than nothing? I would rather have the truth. Thats one of the dumbest comments I've ever read. well seeing as how those made up numbers are based on past numbers and other results. its called statistics, its not bullshit. The European numbers are bullshit because we dont receive public data from Europe or the UK. So there is no past data to base it on. I hate to admit it but I have to go with Cannibalshinobi on this one. these statistics aren't perfectly reliable I guess but still.... it gives us more or less an outline of what the sales really are. | |
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GeneralMLD Five Star General (Admin)
Posts : 1548 Join date : 2009-09-05 Age : 36 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:54 am | |
| they constantly get the ball park number, then they do small changes when they get the real facts.
more or less, they get it right | |
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Captain Emp Fleet Master Chief Petty Officer
Posts : 664 Join date : 2010-01-18 Age : 30 Location : Birmingham UK
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:06 am | |
| - GeneralMLD wrote:
- they constantly get the ball park number, then they do small changes when they get the real facts.
more or less, they get it right too true | |
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Stigma Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 2309 Join date : 2009-12-01 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:21 pm | |
| They don't just pull the numbers straight from their ass. Their educated guesses with Europe and japan. Not like there's anything else we can use. but as long as they use NPD the North American numbers should be correct. | |
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Lt Xplosi Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 2327 Join date : 2009-09-12 Age : 28 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:28 am | |
| at some points i think they are | |
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DustinDutRank Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 186 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 111
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:03 am | |
| I saw a 2009 Top 20 most advertised games that they did and in my opinion, they are not credible at all after seeing it. | |
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danny100 Seaman
Posts : 48 Join date : 2010-03-27 Location : Manchester
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:30 pm | |
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Gibbon_Master Petty Officer 3rd Class
Posts : 87 Join date : 2010-03-04 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| It is fairy credible, but not credible for this week as it say's PS3 sold more console in the US this week must be a mistake | |
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Bullyblazer Petty Officer 3rd Class
Posts : 67 Join date : 2009-09-17
| Subject: Re: Is VGChartz credible or NOT?!? Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:18 pm | |
| No but they give you an idea, just stay away from there forums that site is full of PS3 fanboys. | |
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