Xbox 360 Chip equal to "Powerful" Cell, says Designer of both

Had to rewrite this after the original post was somehow removed from the forums. Probably do to troll activity. But I thought the info is important ammo for Xbox Republic members fighting out in the field.

The genius designer David Shippy, who worked on both the PS3's Cell-specific PPU chip and Xbox 360's Xenon CPU talked about the strengths and weaknesses of both chips.

You see a Sony co-developed the Cell with IBM. In late 2002, Microsoft approached IBM about making the chip for Microsoft's rival game console, the Xbox 360. Microsoft used David Shippy experience working on the Cell to use that technology to design a console specific version.

Here's a snippet

"When asked about which CPU is more powerful, Sippy answered that "It depends... they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores... it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU. The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal, even though they're completely different processing models," he concludes.

Shippy then was asked how hard it is to write code for Playstation 3's Cell chip, and he explained that it is really tough, but -if done right- software can "absolutely get the most out of the [Playstation 3] hardware".

"I think some of the bigger game houses that will write more high-level code would really prefer an Xbox 360 -- right out of the chute, it's easier to write code for. I think you can really leverage the Cell hardware technology -- but it is harder to get your head around.""

So

The most important thing to get from this article is that the freaking designer of the chips says the two consoles are about equal. So when you factor in the pros and cons of both systems game developers can get the same graphics on both, albeit easier on the Xbox 360.

So when a Brownie, (PS3 fanboy), tries to so the PS3 is a beastly gift from the gaming gods with more power than a a hundred 360 taped together. Just laugh and point them to this article.

Full Article: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3904/processing_the_truth_an_interview_.php[i]

MADE A BIG ABOUT THIS FUCKING PS3 FAGGIRLS GOT BUTTHURT FOR IT LULS.

Great stuff!

the only limitation is DVD........but then again ive never had a problem with disk swaps.

you could count the multiple disk 360 games on 2 hands. the rest are 1 disk.

GeneralMLD wrote:

the only limitation is DVD........but then again ive never had a problem with disk swaps.

you could count the multiple disk 360 games on 2 hands. the rest are 1 disk.

Did you know that because the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 is so slow developers are forced to write the sames files, (textures, 3D data), in multiple places on the disc just to reduce access time?

It's true.

Most of the space of a Blu-Ray goes to this and it's the main reason that PS3 games are so huge. The same game on a DVD wouldn't need all that redundant data and when you factor in compression technology a game like MGS 4 could easily fit on a 1 or 2 DVDs.

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

GeneralMLD wrote:

the only limitation is DVD........but then again ive never had a problem with disk swaps.

you could count the multiple disk 360 games on 2 hands. the rest are 1 disk.

Did you know that because the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 is so slow developers are forced to write the sames files, (textures, 3D data), in multiple places on the disc just to reduce access time?

It's true.

Most of the space of a Blu-Ray goes to this and it's the main reason that PS3 games are so huge. The same game on a DVD wouldn't need all that redundant data and when you factor in compression technology a game like MGS 4 could easily fit on a 1 or 2 DVDs.

LOL, I've heard that. PS3 fans deny it but why would the developers lie. It's the same reason so many games require installation.

This is the way it's supposed to be.



Now that's sexy!

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

GeneralMLD wrote:

the only limitation is DVD........but then again ive never had a problem with disk swaps.

you could count the multiple disk 360 games on 2 hands. the rest are 1 disk.

Did you know that because the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 is so slow developers are forced to write the sames files, (textures, 3D data), in multiple places on the disc just to reduce access time?

It's true.

Most of the space of a Blu-Ray goes to this and it's the main reason that PS3 games are so huge. The same game on a DVD wouldn't need all that redundant data and when you factor in compression technology a game like MGS 4 could easily fit on a 1 or 2 DVDs.

That's why MGS4 needs a total of over 20 minutes of installing via 5 seperate acts to watch a shitload of FMV's and experience 5 hours of actual gaming. It took 4 years of development too!

St3V1E 93 wrote:

ha ha ha im actully a member of the trey brotherhood ha ha ha i infiltrated the weebol hood and xbox sucks.

54% failure rate ha ha ha

you xbots suck nigger dick

TREY 4 LIFE

CannibalShinobi wrote:

St3V1E 93 wrote:

ha ha ha im actully a member of the trey brotherhood ha ha ha i infiltrated the weebol hood and xbox sucks.

54% failure rate ha ha ha

you xbots suck nigger dick

TREY 4 LIFE

not only are you racists but a fucking moron who thinks making an account qualifies as "infiltrating". you're not 007 you fucking loser, you're some fatass behind a computer screen.

See PS3 users can only spam, cause they have no real defense on why they think PS3 is better:)

Developers have said time and time again the 360 is:

1. Easier to develop for.

2. Cheaper to develop for.

3. More flexible considering the developers can work with all the 512Mb memory the console has available as compared to 256Mb for Geometry and 256Mb for texture memory.

4. The Xenos processor made by ATI, now AMD, is more powerful than the RSX GPU found inside the PS3.

5. Able to upscale every game the 360 can play at resolutions of 1920x1080 Progressive, as compared to the PS3 where many games will not offer anything above 1280x720 Progressive and when they offer something higher it is actually not true 1920x1080 Progressive.

6. EDRAM.

carlito wrote:

ha ha ha the shit-box 360 (xbox 360) has a 54% failure rate.. its time to put on your big boy pants and take off those damb rose coloured glasses.

TREY 4 LIFE!!!!!!!

last time i checked xbox 360 jasper chip models only have a 4% RRoD rate.