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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 28 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| - xSTONEYx187x wrote:
- Heavy Rain is just set-piece after set-piece O_o Very good game though.
You have some good contenders but that's all they are. BTW I think you should take PDZ off that list......WTF! - Frank2368 wrote:
- Yeah, why's PDZ there lol
Perfect Dark Zero is there for having some of the greatest up-close texture detail ever seen on a console before. Honestly. The character models are awful but the textures are shocking. Unfortunately there are NO decent pics on the internet of PDZ except for one which I always post. But if you happen to own the game, my graphically favourite level is the second one, in the car park area at the start. Wow... the ground, the wall and even the vehicles look stunning! https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img198/422/perfectdscr.jpg | |
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TRF Chief Warrant Officer 5


Posts : 1480 Join date : 2009-10-03
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:10 pm | |
| That PDZ screenshot just looks over-sharpened, that's all.  | |
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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 28 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:15 pm | |
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Alan1994 Chief Warrant Officer 3


Posts : 1146 Join date : 2010-03-08
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:18 pm | |
| To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. | |
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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 28 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:30 pm | |
| - Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I fully agree!! Also, seeing as you're a tech whore, please tell everyone how impressive Perfect Dark Zero is as they don't believe me!! I mean I'm sure most of the textures are procedural but they still look amazing anyway with the bumper mapping(?) and excellent lighting effects. | |
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Xeno-Left this cesspool Petty Officer 3rd Class


Posts : 67 Join date : 2010-07-06 Age : 27 Location : America
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TRF Chief Warrant Officer 5


Posts : 1480 Join date : 2009-10-03
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:49 pm | |
| - Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. All I know is God of War III was fucking gorgeous and a phenomenal game as well, so even if Santa Monica put gameplay second, they did a damn fine job at it. | |
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Pickles Chief Warrant Officer 4


Posts : 1189 Join date : 2009-12-01
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:41 am | |
| - Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this. These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years. I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character. Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that. Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago. They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story. Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower. | |
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â–² Chief Petty Officer


Posts : 368 Join date : 2010-07-14
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:52 am | |
| - Pickles wrote:
- Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this.
These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years.
I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character.
Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that.
Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago.
They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story.
Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower.
But The Godfather does look too dated. I don't really watch films made before the 90s because they look too bad. | |
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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 28 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:21 am | |
| - GGM wrote:
- Pickles wrote:
- Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this.
These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years.
I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character.
Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that.
Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago.
They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story.
Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower.
But The Godfather does look too dated. I don't really watch films made before the 90s because they look too bad. Yeah and I don't listen to bands like King Crimson because they're soo dated.  | |
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TRF Chief Warrant Officer 5


Posts : 1480 Join date : 2009-10-03
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:47 am | |
| - GGM wrote:
- But The Godfather does look too dated. I don't really watch films made before the 90s because they look too bad.
Really? Hell, I don't care if the effects are bad. One of my favorite movies is Jason and the Argonauts, which used stop-motion for the monsters. It looks so cool. The same with the original King Kong and Clash of the Titans. | |
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optimusprime Senior Chief Petty Officer


Posts : 292 Join date : 2010-05-25 Location : Xbox Live
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:22 am | |
| - GGM wrote:
- Pickles wrote:
- Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this.
These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years.
I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character.
Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that.
Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago.
They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story.
Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower.
But The Godfather does look too dated. I don't really watch films made before the 90s because they look too bad. are you fucking stupid? | |
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 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:58 am | |
| - GGM wrote:
- Pickles wrote:
- Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this.
These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years.
I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character.
Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that.
Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago.
They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story.
Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower.
But The Godfather does look too dated. I don't really watch films made before the 90s because they look too bad. Wow. Well then thats your loss. Your missing out on some of the greatest movies ever |
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â–² Chief Petty Officer


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 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:29 pm | |
| I was just joking, my favourite film is probably Rear Window. But I actually know someone who believes in the "before-90s" rule, and he considers himself a film buff. | |
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Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)


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 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:49 pm | |
| I love watching the original star wars trilogy movies yet there graphics are outdated | |
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GAYMidnightFenrir Petty Officer 3rd Class


Posts : 83 Join date : 2010-09-21
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:23 pm | |
| - Arbiteris wrote:
- I love watching the original star wars trilogy movies yet there graphics are outdated
You are so funny... | |
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Alan1994 Chief Warrant Officer 3


Posts : 1146 Join date : 2010-03-08
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| - Pickles wrote:
- Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this.
These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years.
I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character.
Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that.
Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago.
They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story.
Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower.
Har Har, your sarcasm is soo funny. You missed the point of my post. I WANT games to focus on technical advancements, but I want developers to optimise their engine IN FAVOR of the gameplay. Another example, the lighting engine in Alan Wake is absolutely gorgeous, yet it's also a key gameplay element. | |
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Noelol Lieutenant, Junior Grade


Posts : 2259 Join date : 2010-01-28 Location : Canada
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:24 pm | |
| - MidnightFenrir wrote:
- Arbiteris wrote:
- I love watching the original star wars trilogy movies yet there graphics are outdated
You are so funny... What? | |
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GAYMidnightFenrir Petty Officer 3rd Class


Posts : 83 Join date : 2010-09-21
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:32 pm | |
| - PhunkGamer wrote:
- MidnightFenrir wrote:
- Arbiteris wrote:
- I love watching the original star wars trilogy movies yet there graphics are outdated
You are so funny... What? You confused or something? | |
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Noelol Lieutenant, Junior Grade


Posts : 2259 Join date : 2010-01-28 Location : Canada
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| - MidnightFenrir wrote:
- PhunkGamer wrote:
- MidnightFenrir wrote:
- Arbiteris wrote:
- I love watching the original star wars trilogy movies yet there graphics are outdated
You are so funny... What?
You confused or something? Something like that. | |
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Pickles Chief Warrant Officer 4


Posts : 1189 Join date : 2009-12-01
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:13 am | |
| - Alan1994 wrote:
- Pickles wrote:
- Alan1994 wrote:
- To me it matters. The fact that the developers constructed their engine based off of visual fidelity and hardly any technical improvements in AI, physics, etc REALLY pisses me off. Gameplay first, graphics second.
I'm a complete Tech whore, and to me the true advancement in technology comes with advancements in the broadness of a game and inspired AI.
With GOW3, in my head it's like "oh it looks amazing because it was a design choice to make it more of a visual experience". With Halo Reach, it looks great in this day and age...yet it's also even more impressive how they can splash the screen with so many enemy AI and so much open space and different environments to go with it. So in my head I'm like "Holy f*ck" and I start to wonder if there really was any design compromises when making the game engine.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't necessarily have to an exclusive to show advancements in tech, Red Dead Redemption is also mindblowingly fascinating when it comes to tech, and Unreal Engine is one of the best engines in gaming and it's cross platform. I don't agree with this.
These "beautiful" games just get outdated in like 5 years.
I hate how developers are trying to achieve advancements in tech instead of story or character.
Look at the Godfather movie. No one's going to say how shitty it's special effects were because it didn't focus on that.
Then look at all those games that were supposed to blow your mind ten years ago.
They age terribly because they focus too much on technical gimmicks instead of a key feature that ages very well: story.
Fuck you guys you're all going to die virgins, go take a shower.
Har Har, your sarcasm is soo funny.
You missed the point of my post. I WANT games to focus on technical advancements, but I want developers to optimise their engine IN FAVOR of the gameplay. Another example, the lighting engine in Alan Wake is absolutely gorgeous, yet it's also a key gameplay element. ._. I wasn't being sarcastic. | |
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GeneralMLD Five Star General (Admin)


Posts : 1548 Join date : 2009-09-05 Age : 33 Location : Canada
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:38 pm | |
| ps3 fanboys are the latest graphics whores.......lol completely ignoring their heritage as PS consoles never were the most powerful in their respective generations  _________________ It is more then possible to combine fanboyism with logic and reason. Know your own console, and know your competition. Most importantly, side with the console that isn't last place  X Cellence 4 Life. | |
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Teckno Command Master Chief Petty Officer

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Pickles Chief Warrant Officer 4


Posts : 1189 Join date : 2009-12-01
 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:45 am | |
| - Teckno wrote:
- GeneralMLD wrote:
- PC fanboys are the latest graphics whores.......lol
completely ignoring their heritage as PS consoles never were the most powerful in their respective generations  It's funny hearing PC fanboys saying multiplats on the PC make the console versions look like Nes games. To me, the differences look slight. | |
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TRF Chief Warrant Officer 5


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 | Subject: Re: I...Hate...Graphics....Whores Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:11 am | |
| - GeneralMLD wrote:
- ps3 fanboys are the latest graphics whores.......lol
completely ignoring their heritage as PS consoles never were the most powerful in their respective generations  Who cares about their heritage? That just means Sony is stepping it up in terms of hardware. | |
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