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PostSubject: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 2:24 am

http://www.destructoid.com/use-a-swastika-in-black-ops-get-banned-from-xbox-live-188245.phtml

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If you choose to wear a Call of Duty: Black Ops logo that shares similarities with a certain equilateral cross that enjoys a certain bond with a certain group of jackbooted individuals, you better not be doing it on Xbox Live. Microsoft is banning all those who carry a swastika into battle, and it isn't prepared to engage in a debate about it.

"It’s not political correctness, it’s fundamental respect," says Xbox Live's gestapo head, Stephen Tolouse. "If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the earth, I think that’s great. Your Xbox LIVE profile or in game logo, which doesn’t have the context to explain your goal, is not the right place to do that. And by the way, that doesn’t just go for the swastika, it applies to many other symbols as well that my team does indeed take action on when we see it.

He goes on to say that various outraged gamers have argued that if we're banning swastikas, then the star of David, the Christian cross and the infinity symbol should be banned too, for various interpretations that associate them with evil. Tolouse is not prepared to discuss it, saying that in the cases of symbols like the swastika, it's "kind of a no brainer."

I'm never a big fan of censorship, but at the end of the day, arguing for your right to wear a swastika in a videogame? That's really not a fight worth having, guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 3:01 am

But the hammer and sickle is ok. You know cause Stalin never killed anyone...oh wait...he killed more innocent people than the nazi's...
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 9:06 pm

Bullcrap.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 12:11 am

Bullshit, what if someone is just using the Buddhist swastika?
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 12:13 am

Makes absolutely no sense. Swastikas are originally from Japan. No sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 1:21 am

I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 3:54 am

ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

I know,right?

I know it has some older meanings but the Nazi's have already bastardized it to the point where when you see it on someone's folder, you instantly start feeling...uneasy.

Except for me, of course. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 9:25 am

TheAssassin wrote:
Makes absolutely no sense. Swastikas are originally from Japan. No sense.

Ancient Egypt actually.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptySun Dec 05, 2010 9:56 am

Why is it it in the game? Why give you the option to use it if you'll end up getting banned?
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Stoney wrote:
Why is it it in the game? Why give you the option to use it if you'll end up getting banned?
You can create your own emblem designs by using basic shapes.
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ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyMon Dec 06, 2010 2:19 am

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)

I don't know. For some reason, the Nazi's are more infamous.

Hey, it's probably because they fucking started WWII.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyMon Dec 06, 2010 3:53 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
in soviet russia........ hmm


i cant believe you said this. concentration camps killed about 6 million jews.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyMon Dec 06, 2010 4:06 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
Because the hammer and sickle symbol is not associated to genocide in the same way as the swastika is.
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Madtoker wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
in soviet russia........ hmm


i cant believe you said this. concentration camps killed about 6 million jews.

The ukraine massacre alone had more killed than that.

NightFang91 wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
Because the hammer and sickle symbol is not associated to genocide in the same way as the swastika is.

It represents Soviet Russia, which has killed millions. More than the holocaust.


All I am saying is, both are symbols that represent mass murder.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyMon Dec 06, 2010 10:57 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

All I am saying is, both are symbols that represent mass murder.
This count as one?

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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyMon Dec 06, 2010 11:12 pm

^^^ what...?
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyTue Dec 07, 2010 9:36 pm

Seriously Freemon?
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Seriously Freemon?

He's a troll, let him be.
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I don't get it, what's that pic that Freemon posted?
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BlackStigma wrote:
I don't get it, what's that pic that Freemon posted?

Its freemon, being a freemon. Might as well just delete it.
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PostSubject: Re: Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live   Use a swastika in Black Ops, get banned from xbox live EmptyWed Dec 08, 2010 7:57 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
Madtoker wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
in soviet russia........ hmm


i cant believe you said this. concentration camps killed about 6 million jews.

The ukraine massacre alone had more killed than that.

NightFang91 wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
Because the hammer and sickle symbol is not associated to genocide in the same way as the swastika is.

It represents Soviet Russia, which has killed millions. More than the holocaust.


All I am saying is, both are symbols that represent mass murder.

I just had too. XD
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Stoney wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
Madtoker wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
in soviet russia........ hmm


i cant believe you said this. concentration camps killed about 6 million jews.

The ukraine massacre alone had more killed than that.

NightFang91 wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
I don't see how this is bullshit. The Swastika is regarded as the Nazi symbol by society regardless of its previous meanings and I'm sure all the people who use it are directly referring to the Nazi's and they deserve the ban

Then why can you use the hammer and sickle? Soviet Russia has killed many more innocent people then the Nazi's. (Ukraine massacre)
Because the hammer and sickle symbol is not associated to genocide in the same way as the swastika is.

It represents Soviet Russia, which has killed millions. More than the holocaust.


All I am saying is, both are symbols that represent mass murder.

I just had too. XD
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^^ that was stupid.
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BlackStigma wrote:
I don't get it, what's that pic that Freemon posted?

Rainbow flag is the symbol gays use.
Very similar to something I have already seen...
MAYBE THIS?!
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Back on topic.

So what if they ban them? I mean, your not gonna die if you can't use them. It may be interpreted wrong, don't take the risk. You don't have to show Freedom of Expression for the sake showing it.
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