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DemonWolf Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 9104 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 31 Location : UK? Yes I'm fine.
| Subject: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:28 pm | |
| Under Generalmld's video: Bold Prediction 2010, in the comment section someone said that any 360 game that's on pc doesn't count. I think he said this because people with a high end pc can play 360 games. If you bring up the argument: Ok, they're 360 games and not pc games, they say: "no because they were made for pc and ported to 360". But I can apply the same argument to 360 and PS3 cross platform games. I can say, Ok well any cross platform game of 360 and ps3 doesn't count on ps3. We can include the cross plats of ps3 and 360 only for 360 because the 360 got these games and ps3 got ports. Plus if you have a 360 there's no need to buy a ps3 because they are games you can play already.
So, it's ps3 fanboys' choice.
In this tally that Generalmld's making, either pc/360 cross platform games count for Xbox 360 OR Cross platform games for ps3/360 don't count on ps3 but count on Xbox 360.
It's only fair that way. | |
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Mr. Cole Drake Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 161 Join date : 2009-10-13 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:41 pm | |
| I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however. | |
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daveMastaKill Chief Warrant Officer 5
Posts : 1397 Join date : 2009-10-08
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:17 pm | |
| Hu i think every game is made on PC and then specialized for the consoles lol | |
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343_Guilty_Spark Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 2290 Join date : 2009-09-05 Location : Installation 04
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:49 pm | |
| - Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit. PC is not a gaming console so it doesn't count in this console war. If you can't play it on PS3 than it's exclusive to the Xbox 360. Last time I checked you don't get a $3,000 gaming PC when you buy a PS3. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:03 pm | |
| Thats just a weak argument that Sony fanboys use to downplay 360 exclusives. I laugh when brownies say they will play it on PC because theyre still supporting MS when they do. | |
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Mr. Cole Drake Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 161 Join date : 2009-10-13 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:29 pm | |
| They're absolutely still supporting Microsoft, but they're not playing a 360 exclusive if it's running on their $800 PC. That's just the definition of the word. | |
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Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 5064 Join date : 2009-09-15 Location : Sanghelios
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:32 pm | |
| - 343_Guilty_Spark wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit.
PC is not a gaming console so it doesn't count in this console war. If you can't play it on PS3 than it's exclusive to the Xbox 360. Last time I checked you don't get a $3,000 gaming PC when you buy a PS3. I agree with you sparky | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:35 pm | |
| - Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- They're absolutely still supporting Microsoft, but they're not playing a 360 exclusive if it's running on their $800 PC. That's just the definition of the word.
But it is still a console exclusive that happens to be available on MS other platform. | |
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II XShogunX II Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 207 Join date : 2009-09-09 Age : 32 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:42 pm | |
| I can never understand why Ps3 slaves always bring up the PC argument like it is actually a good thing for them. Microsoft owns the PC market, Games for Windows owns PC gaming as a whole. If Ps3 slaves really even buy PC games then all they are doing is throwing their hard earned cash at us. Every PC game they buy is profit for Microsoft, simple as that.
I am going to let you guys in on a little secret, 80% of Ps3 fanboys do not even own a PC upgraded past 2001 standards, so in reality they actually can't play the games, they just say they can in an attempt to brush it off. | |
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Mr. Cole Drake Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 161 Join date : 2009-10-13 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:47 pm | |
| - 343_Guilty_Spark wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit.
PC is not a gaming console . Yes it is. PC is still the most common gaming platform in America. You can say it doesn't count in this console war. But in reality, it sure does. Most people have the option to play a few xbox ports on their PC. But if they want to play Halo 3 or Fable 2 then they need to buy an xbox360. That's why they're called exclusives. Perhaps you need to not be a fanboy in order to understand. | |
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II XShogunX II Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 207 Join date : 2009-09-09 Age : 32 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:53 pm | |
| - Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- 343_Guilty_Spark wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit.
PC is not a gaming console . Yes it is. PC is still the most common gaming platform in America. You can say it doesn't count in this console war. But in reality, it sure does. People have the option to play a few xbox ports on their PC. But if they want to play Halo 3 or Fable 2 then they need to buy an xbox360. That's why they're called exclusives.
Perhaps you need to not be a fanboy in order to understand. However, PC really is not a gaming CONSOLE. Do you know what the word "console" means or refers to? PC is a gaming system, but PC will never be a "console". The term "console exclusive" is very legitimate. Why? Because the game is only on a single CONSOLE, and the only 3 consoles there are being referred to are the Wii, 360 and Ps3, because they are consoles. PC is not a console in any way shape or form, some English proffesors will have you shot for calling a Computer a console. Calling a PC a console is like calling a drycleaning store a supermarket. | |
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Mr. Cole Drake Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 161 Join date : 2009-10-13 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:59 pm | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- 343_Guilty_Spark wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit.
PC is not a gaming console . Yes it is. PC is still the most common gaming platform in America. You can say it doesn't count in this console war. But in reality, it sure does. People have the option to play a few xbox ports on their PC. But if they want to play Halo 3 or Fable 2 then they need to buy an xbox360. That's why they're called exclusives.
Perhaps you need to not be a fanboy in order to understand. However, PC really is not a gaming CONSOLE. Do you know what the word "console" means or refers to? PC is a gaming system, but PC will never be a "console".
. Taken from Wiki. "A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game. The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade machines, which are designed for businesses that buy them and then charge others to play." | |
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II XShogunX II Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 207 Join date : 2009-09-09 Age : 32 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:02 pm | |
| - Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- II XShogunX II wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- 343_Guilty_Spark wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit.
PC is not a gaming console . Yes it is. PC is still the most common gaming platform in America. You can say it doesn't count in this console war. But in reality, it sure does. People have the option to play a few xbox ports on their PC. But if they want to play Halo 3 or Fable 2 then they need to buy an xbox360. That's why they're called exclusives.
Perhaps you need to not be a fanboy in order to understand. However, PC really is not a gaming CONSOLE. Do you know what the word "console" means or refers to? PC is a gaming system, but PC will never be a "console".
. Taken from Wiki.
"A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game. The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade machines, which are designed for businesses that buy them and then charge others to play." You didn't have to prove me right man, but thanks anyway. If you don't know, PC = Personal Computer. | |
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343_Guilty_Spark Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 2290 Join date : 2009-09-05 Location : Installation 04
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:22 pm | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- II XShogunX II wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- 343_Guilty_Spark wrote:
- Mr. Cole Drake wrote:
- I don't think where it was ported from makes any difference. If you can play a game on PC, then it's not an xbox360 exclusive. You could say it's a Microsoft exclusive, however.
That's total bullshit.
PC is not a gaming console . Yes it is. PC is still the most common gaming platform in America. You can say it doesn't count in this console war. But in reality, it sure does. People have the option to play a few xbox ports on their PC. But if they want to play Halo 3 or Fable 2 then they need to buy an xbox360. That's why they're called exclusives.
Perhaps you need to not be a fanboy in order to understand. However, PC really is not a gaming CONSOLE. Do you know what the word "console" means or refers to? PC is a gaming system, but PC will never be a "console".
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"A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game. The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade machines, which are designed for businesses that buy them and then charge others to play." You didn't have to prove me right man, but thanks anyway. If you don't know, PC = Personal Computer. lol, that definition says it all. Everything with a CPU, RAM, etc. falls into the "computer" category, but "Console" means it's for games and is distinguished from PC which runs Windows or Linux and is for all kinds of stuff. If a game isn't available on PS3 than it's an Xbox 360 exclusive. Like I said before, you don't get a $3,000 PC with every purchase of a PS3 so Sony fanboys can't say they can play Xbox 360 games on PC when I doubt most of them have a PC that wasn't purchased at Walmart. | |
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II XShogunX II Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 207 Join date : 2009-09-09 Age : 32 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:30 pm | |
| It is so very easy to determine whether or not PC/360 exclusives benefit the 360. You just have to think logically really.
For instance....
Guy walks into a gaming store. He is thinking of buying a 360, PS3 or Wii for himself. He decides to check out the games. He sees games like Left for Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA 4: Liberty City stories, Risen, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake etc. for the 360. Now he sees that these games are not on the other two consoles so he buys the 360.
Logically when somebody sets out to buy a console, they don't check to see if the games are on PC, they check to see if the games are on Ps3 or Wii. It is like going out to rent a DVD, you don't check to see if the movie you chose is on VHS. | |
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343_Guilty_Spark Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 2290 Join date : 2009-09-05 Location : Installation 04
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:41 pm | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- It is so very easy to determine whether or not PC/360 exclusives benefit the 360. You just have to think logically really.
For instance....
Guy walks into a gaming store. He is thinking of buying a 360, PS3 or Wii for himself. He decides to check out the games. He sees games like Left for Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA 4: Liberty City stories, Risen, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake etc. for the 360. Now he sees that these games are not on the other two consoles so he buys the 360.
Logically when somebody sets out to buy a console, they don't check to see if the games are on PC, they check to see if the games are on Ps3 or Wii. It is like going out to rent a DVD, you don't check to see if the movie you chose is on VHS. Damn right! | |
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Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)
Posts : 5064 Join date : 2009-09-15 Location : Sanghelios
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:13 pm | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- It is so very easy to determine whether or not PC/360 exclusives benefit the 360. You just have to think logically really.
For instance....
Guy walks into a gaming store. He is thinking of buying a 360, PS3 or Wii for himself. He decides to check out the games. He sees games like Left for Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA 4: Liberty City stories, Risen, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake etc. for the 360. Now he sees that these games are not on the other two consoles so he buys the 360.
Logically when somebody sets out to buy a console, they don't check to see if the games are on PC, they check to see if the games are on Ps3 or Wii. It is like going out to rent a DVD, you don't check to see if the movie you chose is on VHS. Your absolutly right! | |
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Alex Seaman Recruit
Posts : 16 Join date : 2009-10-31
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:52 pm | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- It is so very easy to determine whether or not PC/360 exclusives benefit the 360. You just have to think logically really.
For instance....
Guy walks into a gaming store. He is thinking of buying a 360, PS3 or Wii for himself. He decides to check out the games. He sees games like Left for Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA 4: Liberty City stories, Risen, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake etc. for the 360. Now he sees that these games are not on the other two consoles so he buys the 360.
Logically when somebody sets out to buy a console, they don't check to see if the games are on PC, they check to see if the games are on Ps3 or Wii. It is like going out to rent a DVD, you don't check to see if the movie you chose is on VHS. I have to disagree with you. If i were going to buy a console than i would check to see what kind of games are on what console or since you like to have scenarios i would say i have 6 friends. 3 have 360s the other 3 have ps3s. I want to get into gaming for the first time so i'm going to go ask one of them what games are good and research them. If Left for Dead 2, Mass Effect etc. are on the PC i may think of getting a ps3 for the exclusives since quite a few games on 360 are also on PC but than other things come into effect like 360 which has better online and IMO is a better overall console. but the definition from wiki completely says it all that PC is a console hence why games not on ps3 and only on 360 and PC are not console exclusives to the 360 since the PC is a console. But who cares i would rather play those games on the 360 anyways. "A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game. The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade machines, which are designed for businesses that buy them and then charge others to play." | |
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343_Guilty_Spark Four Star General (Moderator)
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| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:58 pm | |
| How is it possible for you to so severely misread that definition.
Let me break it down for you:
"A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game."
You may be confused at this point, but just wait and keep reading.
The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions"
Did you notice that "from" part? It's saying the term is used to separate a gaming machine from a PC.
Do you understand? Unless you get a $3,000 PC with the purchase of a PS3 you can't play the games. The Xbox 360 has the best games, period. | |
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GeneralMLD Five Star General (Admin)
Posts : 1548 Join date : 2009-09-05 Age : 36 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:11 pm | |
| u need a strict 360 vs ps3 mentality
exclusive or not, if 360 can play it and ps3 cant, it counts. Vice versa. | |
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Alex Seaman Recruit
Posts : 16 Join date : 2009-10-31
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:20 pm | |
| well no where did i say that 360 didn't have the best games and from the argument that is being held which is the PC is not a console is false so technically from that definition as i said in my other post the PC is a console.
"computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game."
did you get that part, any electronic device that plays a video game is a console and i'm not sure why you emphasized "from" since i dont understand what point you where making with that word. Also you don't need a 3,000 dollar PC to play one of the upcoming games, in fact you can build a PC with a mid grade graphics card for quite a cheap price.
EDIT: so how about to solve all of this we say that we aren't in the console war and only in the 360 vs ps3 war | |
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343_Guilty_Spark Four Star General (Moderator)
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| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:17 am | |
| - Alex wrote:
- well no where did i say that 360 didn't have the best games and from the argument that is being held which is the PC is not a console is false so technically from that definition as i said in my other post the PC is a console.
"computer or electronic device that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game."
did you get that part, any electronic device that plays a video game is a console and i'm not sure why you emphasized "from" since i dont understand what point you where making with that word. Also you don't need a 3,000 dollar PC to play one of the upcoming games, in fact you can build a PC with a mid grade graphics card for quite a cheap price.
EDIT: so how about to solve all of this we say that we aren't in the console war and only in the 360 vs ps3 war I'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "from". If you so severely misinterpreted that definition I doubt I have the energy to explain it to you in way you'd understand. | |
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II XShogunX II Petty Officer 1st Class
Posts : 207 Join date : 2009-09-09 Age : 32 Location : South Africa
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:23 am | |
| It is amazing how badly some people read. Do you know what the word "distinguish" means? It means to draw the line between two things and differentiate them from one another.
Read, slowly. "The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine for consumers to buy solely for playing video games from a Personal Computer."
Read it again. And again.
Do you understand what is being said? Distinguish from.
Also what I said is true, when a guy walks into a store and thinks of buying a PS3, 360 or Wii, he does not check to see if the games are on PC because he wants to buy a PS3, 360 or Wii, not a PC. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Posts : 3050 Join date : 2009-09-30 Location : Area 51
| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:56 am | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- It is amazing how badly some people read. Do you know what the word "distinguish" means? It means to draw the line between two things and differentiate them from one another.
Read, slowly. "The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine for consumers to buy solely for playing video games from a Personal Computer."
Read it again. And again.
Do you understand what is being said? Distinguish from.
Also what I said is true, when a guy walks into a store and thinks of buying a PS3, 360 or Wii, he does not check to see if the games are on PC because he wants to buy a PS3, 360 or Wii, not a PC. Absolutley 100 percent correct. Well said. | |
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Master_Chief Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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| Subject: Re: "Xbox 360 games on pc don't matter" argument Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:58 am | |
| - II XShogunX II wrote:
- It is so very easy to determine whether or not PC/360 exclusives benefit the 360. You just have to think logically really.
For instance....
Guy walks into a gaming store. He is thinking of buying a 360, PS3 or Wii for himself. He decides to check out the games. He sees games like Left for Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA 4: Liberty City stories, Risen, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake etc. for the 360. Now he sees that these games are not on the other two consoles so he buys the 360.
Logically when somebody sets out to buy a console, they don't check to see if the games are on PC, they check to see if the games are on Ps3 or Wii. It is like going out to rent a DVD, you don't check to see if the movie you chose is on VHS. I couldn't have said it better if I tried. Very true. | |
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