Why PGR5 won't come...

This guy now owns the Dev.

Its being made from the same people that made forza.

You.....fail sooo much.

NoelX2 wrote:

Its being made from the same people that made forza.

You.....fail sooo much.

And you have a link, because Turn 10 is making the 2 new forza games.

PGR is owned by MS. They can get another developer to make PGR

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

Alan1994 wrote:

PGR is owned by MS. They can get another developer to make PGR

MSG lacks devs. The only good racing dev they have is Turn 10 because Bizarre was given to old Bobby. And Turn 10 is making 2 other games.

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

Are you fucking kidding? WHY would Microsoft let another dev make PGR5 when they have Turn 10? Who cares if Turn 10 has two other games in the works? Lots of companies work on multiple games at once.

BlackStigma wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

Are you fucking kidding? WHY would Microsoft let another dev make PGR5 when they have Turn 10? Who cares if Turn 10 has two other games in the works? Lots of companies work on multiple games at once.

How many of those are AAA devs?

Eiffel65 wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

Are you fucking kidding? WHY would Microsoft let another dev make PGR5 when they have Turn 10? Who cares if Turn 10 has two other games in the works? Lots of companies work on multiple games at once.

How many of those are AAA devs?

Why does that matter? Turn 10 could have been working on PGR5 ever since Bizzare Creations was bought out by Activision.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/18/rumor-turn-10-takes-over-pgr5-development/
Look at how long these rumors have been around, and then look at this one.
http://kokugamer.com/2009/11/21/microsoft-executive-confirms-pgr-5-in-the-works/
Confirmed.

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

343 Industries: A studio set up to develop future Halo related productions.
BigPark: Kinect Joy Ride.
Firebird Studios: Set up to help push the visual boundaries of all Xbox 360 titles. Also working on an unannounced game.
Ftoni Studios: Xbox Live Indie Games, Xbox Live Arcade Games.
Good Science Studio: Kinect Adventures[8]
Lionhead Studios: Black & White series, Fable series.
MGS Mobile Gaming: focused on bringing games and entertainment to the Windows Phone 7.
Rare Ltd.: Banjo-Kazooie series, Battletoads series, Conker series, Perfect Dark series, Viva Piñata series, Kinect Sports
Turn 10 Studios: Forza Motorsport series.
Xbox Live Productions: Fable II Pub Games, South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!
Wingnut Interactive: A studio set up in partnership with Peter Jackson to produce "filmic games".



I love PGR so much, i hope they can make a sequel for it, PGR 4 is so awesome.

yogsam wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

343 Industries: A studio set up to develop future Halo related productions.
BigPark: Kinect Joy Ride.
Firebird Studios: Set up to help push the visual boundaries of all Xbox 360 titles. Also working on an unannounced game.
Ftoni Studios: Xbox Live Indie Games, Xbox Live Arcade Games.
Good Science Studio: Kinect Adventures[8]
Lionhead Studios: Black & White series, Fable series.
MGS Mobile Gaming: focused on bringing games and entertainment to the Windows Phone 7.
Rare Ltd.: Banjo-Kazooie series, Battletoads series, Conker series, Perfect Dark series, Viva Piñata series, Kinect Sports
Turn 10 Studios: Forza Motorsport series.
Xbox Live Productions: Fable II Pub Games, South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!
Wingnut Interactive: A studio set up in partnership with Peter Jackson to produce "filmic games".



I love PGR so much, i hope they can make a sequel for it, PGR 4 is so awesome.

You soo copied that from Wikipedia.

NoelX2 wrote:

yogsam wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

NoelX2 wrote:

http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/6218/turn-10-working-on-new-project-gotham-racing-game-update

Its old but the team may be working on it secretative. We never know.

This article was from 09, and it said they were recording sound for an unanounced game. And they announced 2 games since the article.

Sooooooo?
Have you heard of secretative?
And even if its wrong, ur still fail because M$ owns PGR.

Name 10 MSG devs. MSG has very few devs to give it to.

343 Industries: A studio set up to develop future Halo related productions.
BigPark: Kinect Joy Ride.
Firebird Studios: Set up to help push the visual boundaries of all Xbox 360 titles. Also working on an unannounced game.
Ftoni Studios: Xbox Live Indie Games, Xbox Live Arcade Games.
Good Science Studio: Kinect Adventures[8]
Lionhead Studios: Black & White series, Fable series.
MGS Mobile Gaming: focused on bringing games and entertainment to the Windows Phone 7.
Rare Ltd.: Banjo-Kazooie series, Battletoads series, Conker series, Perfect Dark series, Viva Piñata series, Kinect Sports
Turn 10 Studios: Forza Motorsport series.
Xbox Live Productions: Fable II Pub Games, South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!
Wingnut Interactive: A studio set up in partnership with Peter Jackson to produce "filmic games".



I love PGR so much, i hope they can make a sequel for it, PGR 4 is so awesome.

You soo copied that from Wikipedia.

You're so right about that

BlackStigma wrote:

Why does that matter? Turn 10 could have been working on PGR5 ever since Bizzare Creations was bought out by Activision.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/18/rumor-turn-10-takes-over-pgr5-development/
Look at how long these rumors have been around, and then look at this one.
http://kokugamer.com/2009/11/21/microsoft-executive-confirms-pgr-5-in-the-works/
Confirmed.

If Kevin Butler has taught us anything its don't believe everything you read on the internet. Thats how WW1 got started. Anyway, T10 is already working on 2 Forza games, why would they be working on a PGR game aswell, because usually when a Dev focusses on multiple games, the quality drops, and great developers like T10 know this, so why would they be working on a 3rd game? And if they have been working on it since Bizzare was bought by Activision, its the new GT5, because Activision got it in 2007.

Eiffel65 wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Why does that matter? Turn 10 could have been working on PGR5 ever since Bizzare Creations was bought out by Activision.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/18/rumor-turn-10-takes-over-pgr5-development/
Look at how long these rumors have been around, and then look at this one.
http://kokugamer.com/2009/11/21/microsoft-executive-confirms-pgr-5-in-the-works/
Confirmed.

If Kevin Butler has taught us anything its don't believe everything you read on the internet. Thats how WW1 got started. Anyway, T10 is already working on 2 Forza games, why would they be working on a PGR game aswell, because usually when a Dev focusses on multiple games, the quality drops, and great developers like T10 know this, so why would they be working on a 3rd game? And if they have been working on it since Bizzare was bought by Activision, its the new GT5, because Activision got it in 2007.

So what? MGS has a great racing franchise, and a AAA racing game dev, why wouldn't you hand it over to them? Kevin Butler, Kevin Butler, whatever the guy's not even real.

BlackStigma wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Why does that matter? Turn 10 could have been working on PGR5 ever since Bizzare Creations was bought out by Activision.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/18/rumor-turn-10-takes-over-pgr5-development/
Look at how long these rumors have been around, and then look at this one.
http://kokugamer.com/2009/11/21/microsoft-executive-confirms-pgr-5-in-the-works/
Confirmed.

If Kevin Butler has taught us anything its don't believe everything you read on the internet. Thats how WW1 got started. Anyway, T10 is already working on 2 Forza games, why would they be working on a PGR game aswell, because usually when a Dev focusses on multiple games, the quality drops, and great developers like T10 know this, so why would they be working on a 3rd game? And if they have been working on it since Bizzare was bought by Activision, its the new GT5, because Activision got it in 2007.

So what? MGS has a great racing franchise, and a AAA racing game dev, why wouldn't you hand it over to them? Kevin Butler, Kevin Butler, whatever the guy's not even real.

Dude, the KB part was a joke And so your saying that great devs can do multiple games at once and still keep the quality. Well that isn't true look at old franchises that died quickly do to overbooking by the main dev, most notably GH by Neversoft. This is the point of my arguement:

As a dev makes more games at 1 given time the quality drops, A LOT. Especially with small devs like Turn 10 that don't even have 100 employees. Making 2 games at once is a hassle as it is, but now your trying to say that they're making 3 games at once. That means you about 33 people making each game, some indy devs have more employees than that.

Eiffel65 wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Eiffel65 wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Why does that matter? Turn 10 could have been working on PGR5 ever since Bizzare Creations was bought out by Activision.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/18/rumor-turn-10-takes-over-pgr5-development/
Look at how long these rumors have been around, and then look at this one.
http://kokugamer.com/2009/11/21/microsoft-executive-confirms-pgr-5-in-the-works/
Confirmed.

If Kevin Butler has taught us anything its don't believe everything you read on the internet. Thats how WW1 got started. Anyway, T10 is already working on 2 Forza games, why would they be working on a PGR game aswell, because usually when a Dev focusses on multiple games, the quality drops, and great developers like T10 know this, so why would they be working on a 3rd game? And if they have been working on it since Bizzare was bought by Activision, its the new GT5, because Activision got it in 2007.

So what? MGS has a great racing franchise, and a AAA racing game dev, why wouldn't you hand it over to them? Kevin Butler, Kevin Butler, whatever the guy's not even real.

Dude, the KB part was a joke And so your saying that great devs can do multiple games at once and still keep the quality. Well that isn't true look at old franchises that died quickly do to overbooking by the main dev, most notably GH by Neversoft. This is the point of my arguement:

As a dev makes more games at 1 given time the quality drops, A LOT. Especially with small devs like Turn 10 that don't even have 100 employees. Making 2 games at once is a hassle as it is, but now your trying to say that they're making 3 games at once. That means you about 33 people making each game, some indy devs have more employees than that.

Turn 10 has 120 full time employees. Do you know how many people worked on Forza 3? 300 f*cking people. They got this many through contract employees and outsourcing to other studios. One of the Forza's they are working on is just Forza for Kinect. I mean they already have the tracks and cars so it's not like it's gonna take that big of a team or that much time. As for Forza 4 and PGR5 they have probably hired some contract employees. Okay Neversoft has released like 10 games in the past 5 years. Like 2 per year. Turn 10 has so far released 1 every 2 years. The reason why quality drops for some devs is because they rush all their games and the quality turns to shit. Turn 10 has proven to release amazing games at a non-rushed but still fast pace. It's not like their going to release them all at once.

Indy devs? As in Indie Games for XBL game devs? Cause they have only a few people...Shadow Complex had a team of a dozen people, an arcade game requires a lot more time and people.

I actually think its stupid having Turn10 do both Forza as well as PGR.