No Bad Comments but, what makes Halo Great?

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

I can agree, I thought the gameplay was a bit TOO simple but oh well, I still wish Bungie had maybe considered making an entire game around Forge making a FPS version of LBP. Z:P

i didnt "buy" it

NarrowElf wrote:

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

I can agree, I thought the gameplay was a bit TOO simple but oh well, I still wish Bungie had maybe considered making an entire game around Forge making a FPS version of LBP. Z:P

While the level creator in LBP is the main draw, it's not entirely based around that one feature. Don't forget, LittleBigPlanet is, and always will be, a platformer at heart, just like how Halo will always be an FPS (Halo Wars was an exception).

TRF wrote:

NarrowElf wrote:

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

I can agree, I thought the gameplay was a bit TOO simple but oh well, I still wish Bungie had maybe considered making an entire game around Forge making a FPS version of LBP. Z:P

While the level creator in LBP is the main draw, it's not entirely based around that one feature. Don't forget, LittleBigPlanet is, and always will be, a platformer at heart, just like how Halo will always be an FPS (Halo Wars was an exception).

StarCraft BEST RTS!!!

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

Hmm, I love it but what about Persona 4!?

NarrowElf wrote:

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

Hmm, I love it but what about Persona 4!?

You can't really compare the two, as they are so different.

GGM wrote:

NarrowElf wrote:

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

Hmm, I love it but what about Persona 4!?

You can't really compare the two, as they are so different.

I can compare anything, test me.

NarrowElf wrote:

GGM wrote:

NarrowElf wrote:

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

Hmm, I love it but what about Persona 4!?

You can't really compare the two, as they are so different.

I can compare anything, test me.

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

NarrowElf wrote:

GGM wrote:

NarrowElf wrote:

TRF wrote:

I think the gameplay style is unique and fun. The multiplayer is very simple, and the level design is fantastic (Bungie is a master of the craft). The Forge mode that was added in Halo 3 lets you construct your own maps and game types, allowing you to play beyond the realm of traditional Halo. I've played in recreations of Indiana Jones temples, a first-person version of Pong, a Boom Blox variant, and a lot of other cool games. Bungie is even improving on Forge and Custom Games, as well as adding a customizable Firefight mode to Reach.

I never cared for the story. I always thought it was presented poorly in the games, which is why I was never drawn into the universe, which I would imagine is great.

NarrowElf wrote:

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

DAMMIT! I need to change my comment! Im a PS3 fanboy!

Valkyria Chronicles !!??

That was a pretty good game. I didn't love it like most people did, but I've gotta respect Sega for releasing a unique JRPG.

Hmm, I love it but what about Persona 4!?

You can't really compare the two, as they are so different.

I can compare anything, test me.

TheJubJub5721 wrote:

MacReady wrote:

I think it's the writing. Name one other game that actually has a story other than "go here kill this guy".

I mean, I like other games, but even mass effect was just "go here, kill saren" with a lot of talking

Its bigger than that. Every shooter story has you killing someone. But in Mass Effect, your main goal is to stop the collectors. Not just killing Saran. That is just a part.

The main goal has always been to stop the Reapers, the collectors are just possessed by the Reaper mind, just like Saren was disrupted by Sovereign (the reaper in ME1).

Saren was not the main enemy in ME1, just a plot-line to expand the story.

What makes Halo great as a whole is that it raises the bar for console gaming. It has amazing controls, and the game itself is no "simplified version" of PC FPSes. Back in the days, Medal of Honor for the PSX was considered good AI, but in PC standards, it's crap. But for Halo's AI it's beyond amazing for console standards, and PC standards, it's still probably or is better than some of those PC shooters that were out for its time.

Campaign was amazing. Probably the best 10 levels I've ever played in a campaign (Halo: combat Evolved), and it just had so many set pieces that were memorable and the gunplay was just top-notch. The other Halo campaign games are great too, but nothing compared to the first game. Some people say Halo was the first with the regen shield, while some may disagree, if Halo didn't invent the things that it's known for, atleast it perfected those features and it gives more developers confidence to try them out instead of relying on health/armor + multiple weapons settings.

Ask any MLG multiplayer fanatic, and they will say is the Halo games are made for being competitive multiplayer. I'm no multiplayer expert, but I guess it's just Bungie has a lot of knowledge of creating a good multiplayer experience.

Meh, don't really agree.

Some people love it, some people hate it. It's as simple as that.

xSTONEYx187x wrote:

Most people love it, COD/PS3 fanboys hate it. It's as simple as that.

Fixed.

Most of the hate it gets is hardly justifible. I guess if you hate FPS's in general then Halo wouldn't be your game. But compared to other FPS's Halo is one of a kind and there are so many good things about it that it's hard to HATE it. And I wouldn't count jealousy from COD/PS3 fanboys as hate either?

I dont actually know why its great. If I have given a review on Halo, it would be 78 - 85. Its just my opinion.

PhunkGamer wrote:

I dont actuall know why its great. If I have given a review on Halo, it would be 78 - 85. Its just my opinion.

Mine too.

PhunkGamer wrote:

I dont actually know why its great. If I have given a review on Halo, it would be 78 - 85. Its just my opinion.

Right, but even then would you say that you HATE Halo? Because a 78-85 is "alright-good".

Alan1994 wrote:

PhunkGamer wrote:

I dont actually know why its great. If I have given a review on Halo, it would be 78 - 85. Its just my opinion.

Right, but even then would you say that you HATE Halo? Because a 78-85 is "alright-good".

I don't HATE it I just don't LIKE it but that for some reason gets me qualified as a PS3 fanboy.

Alan1994 wrote:

PhunkGamer wrote:

I dont actually know why its great. If I have given a review on Halo, it would be 78 - 85. Its just my opinion.

Right, but even then would you say that you HATE Halo? Because a 78-85 is "alright-good".

I like it.

ZeInFormer wrote:

What makes Halo great as a whole is that it raises the bar for console gaming. It has amazing controls, and the game itself is no "simplified version" of PC FPSes. Back in the days, Medal of Honor for the PSX was considered good AI, but in PC standards, it's crap. But for Halo's AI it's beyond amazing for console standards, and PC standards, it's still probably or is better than some of those PC shooters that were out for its time.

Campaign was amazing. Probably the best 10 levels I've ever played in a campaign (Halo: combat Evolved), and it just had so many set pieces that were memorable and the gunplay was just top-notch. The other Halo campaign games are great too, but nothing compared to the first game. Some people say Halo was the first with the regen shield, while some may disagree, if Halo didn't invent the things that it's known for, atleast it perfected those features and it gives more developers confidence to try them out instead of relying on health/armor + multiple weapons settings.

Ask any MLG multiplayer fanatic, and they will say is the Halo games are made for being competitive multiplayer. I'm no multiplayer expert, but I guess it's just Bungie has a lot of knowledge of creating a good multiplayer experience.

The AI in the original Halo was good for its time, but the later games have had atrocious AI.

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I don't HATE it I just don't LIKE it but that for some reason gets me qualified as a PS3 fanboy.

I'm probably the biggest Xbox 360 fan here and I would say my favorite Xbox game would be ME1 or Gears of War. So no that doesn't make much sense.

PhunkGamer wrote:

Alan1994 wrote:

PhunkGamer wrote:

I dont actually know why its great. If I have given a review on Halo, it would be 78 - 85. Its just my opinion.

Right, but even then would you say that you HATE Halo? Because a 78-85 is "alright-good".

I like it.

So that's what I'm getting at. The reason why Halo is so great is simple. There isn't a big enough reason in the franchise to hate it. There are those that love it, those that like it, and then those that wouldn't mind playing it. The series hasn't been milked to death like Call of Duty, each Halo game gives a fair amount of content for the money you pay (yes TRF , even Halo ODST has a fair package when you consider the Halo Mythic disc). The gameplay is fairly rich and unique compared to other FPS's. Etc.

So when you REALLY think about it. The ONLY people that DESPISE Halo are PS3 fanboys/Call of Duty fanboys, OR people who generally don't like First Person Shooters. This is also why Halo's sales are always so big....whether most people like it or love it, there is certain appeal for it. And even those who generally don't like FPS's will atleast be tempted to rent it to see what all the fuss is about.

Alan1994 wrote:

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I don't HATE it I just don't LIKE it but that for some reason gets me qualified as a PS3 fanboy.

I'm probably the biggest Xbox 360 fan here and I would say my favorite Xbox game would be ME1 or Gears of War. So no that doesn't make much sense.

ME is my favorite series ever, and I am an Xbox fan. Just because you like Xbox doesn't mean Halo is automatically your favorite game

Alan1994 wrote:

So that's what I'm getting at. The reason why Halo is so great is simple. There isn't a big enough reason in the franchise to hate it. There are those that love it, those that like it, and then those that wouldn't mind playing it. The series hasn't been milked to death like Call of Duty, each Halo game gives a fair amount of content for the money you pay (yes TRF , even Halo ODST has a fair package when you consider the Halo Mythic disc). The gameplay is fairly rich and unique compared to other FPS's. Etc.

I'll admit that ODST is good as a gateway into the series because of the multiplayer. Although someone who gets into the Halo series via ODST may think that all of the campaigns are as bad as ODST's and never try them.

I never complained about the value of the game. I just complain about how fucking terrible it is.

TRF wrote:

ZeInFormer wrote:

What makes Halo great as a whole is that it raises the bar for console gaming. It has amazing controls, and the game itself is no "simplified version" of PC FPSes. Back in the days, Medal of Honor for the PSX was considered good AI, but in PC standards, it's crap. But for Halo's AI it's beyond amazing for console standards, and PC standards, it's still probably or is better than some of those PC shooters that were out for its time.

Campaign was amazing. Probably the best 10 levels I've ever played in a campaign (Halo: combat Evolved), and it just had so many set pieces that were memorable and the gunplay was just top-notch. The other Halo campaign games are great too, but nothing compared to the first game. Some people say Halo was the first with the regen shield, while some may disagree, if Halo didn't invent the things that it's known for, atleast it perfected those features and it gives more developers confidence to try them out instead of relying on health/armor + multiple weapons settings.

Ask any MLG multiplayer fanatic, and they will say is the Halo games are made for being competitive multiplayer. I'm no multiplayer expert, but I guess it's just Bungie has a lot of knowledge of creating a good multiplayer experience.

The AI in the original Halo was good for its time, but the later games have had atrocious AI.

Enemy AI in each Halo game is top notch. Except the Marine AI, that's just shit. Don't ever let marines drive a warthog while you are on it.

The reviewers however have stated that the AI (both enemy and team) is generally pretty good. I think I read a few reviews that said it was the hardest Halo game yet even when in co-op mode since the difficulty scales up with more people.

TRF wrote:

Alan1994 wrote:

So that's what I'm getting at. The reason why Halo is so great is simple. There isn't a big enough reason in the franchise to hate it. There are those that love it, those that like it, and then those that wouldn't mind playing it. The series hasn't been milked to death like Call of Duty, each Halo game gives a fair amount of content for the money you pay (yes TRF , even Halo ODST has a fair package when you consider the Halo Mythic disc). The gameplay is fairly rich and unique compared to other FPS's. Etc.

I'll admit that ODST is good as a gateway into the series because of the multiplayer. Although someone who gets into the Halo series via ODST may think that all of the campaigns are as bad as ODST's and never try them.

I never complained about the value of the game. I just complain about how fucking terrible it is.

You thought ODST's campaign was bad? I thought it was alright. Definantely better than Halo 3's. I thought the new gameplay elements were refreshing and the general storytelling was great. The ending sucked though.