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PostSubject: Re: How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert)   How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert) - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 27, 2010 4:16 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Scolar Visari wrote:
GeneralMLD wrote:
u gotta keep in mind their military training since they were children

they act military to the core, that said they still have individual personalities and quirks.

L4D was about a bunch of civilians........spartans have dicipline

Just because they're disciplined doesn't mean they can't have a personality. look at BFBC2, Killzone, and Resistance.

Resistance and Killzone characters dont show much more personality either dude........

Never played BFBC2 so I cant judge on that

Resistance characters show a alot of personality. Killzone doesn't have as much as resistance but at least there is some personality in its characters.

Lol? Maybe not Killzone but Resistance characters (for the most part) had personality.

Killzone's characters show a little but as I said above resistance's characters show alot of personality
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TheJubJub5721 wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Scolar Visari wrote:
GeneralMLD wrote:
u gotta keep in mind their military training since they were children

they act military to the core, that said they still have individual personalities and quirks.

L4D was about a bunch of civilians........spartans have dicipline

Just because they're disciplined doesn't mean they can't have a personality. look at BFBC2, Killzone, and Resistance.

Resistance and Killzone characters dont show much more personality either dude........

Never played BFBC2 so I cant judge on that

Lol? Maybe not Killzone but Resistance characters (for the most part) had personality.

I watched the walkthrough of both games and they didnt seem to have any more personality then Noble Team did...
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Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.
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Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
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Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.
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Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....

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Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....

Iv'e already explained why thats wrong..
You can't say it's a stupid thing to criticize. HALO CAN BE CRITICIZED YOU KNOW! Razz
It's just a thing they can work on. I don't expect Halo to do everything. They can improve themselves is all.
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Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....


Why aren't they supposed to? Will an FPS game actually get POINTS OFF for having 3-dimensional characters? That's fucking stupid.

Also it's not idiotic at all to criticize a game for having a flaw that the genre has had for the last couple of years. If it's a consistent flaw, all the more reason to criticize it.
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Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

which is why there is a halo encyclopedia Smile

just thought id say that

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GeneralMLD wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

which is why there is a halo encyclopedia Smile

just thought id say that

You're supposed to get good characters it in the game.

Just thought I'd say that.
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Pickles wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....


Why aren't they supposed to? Will an FPS game actually get POINTS OFF for having 3-dimensional characters? That's fucking stupid.

Also it's not idiotic at all to criticize a game for having a flaw that the genre has had for the last couple of years. If it's a consistent flaw, all the more reason to criticize it.

I never said that genius.If a shooter has 3 dimensional characters thats great, good for them but its fucking stupid to complain about something that many FPS have.Shooters ARE NOT eant to have really good characters.never have been.Or look at the RTS genre.I garentee you wont find any RTS with 3 dimiensional characters other than starcraft.Yet do you see RTS gamers complain about it?No.And the millions of shooter gamers out there do not care about 3 dimmensional characters
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PostSubject: Re: How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert)   How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert) - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 29, 2010 3:30 pm

Arbiteris wrote:
Pickles wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....


Why aren't they supposed to? Will an FPS game actually get POINTS OFF for having 3-dimensional characters? That's fucking stupid.

Also it's not idiotic at all to criticize a game for having a flaw that the genre has had for the last couple of years. If it's a consistent flaw, all the more reason to criticize it.

I never said that genius.If a shooter has 3 dimensional characters thats great, good for them but its fucking stupid to complain about something that many FPS have.Shooters ARE NOT eant to have really good characters.never have been.Or look at the RTS genre.I garentee you wont find any RTS with 3 dimiensional characters other than starcraft.Yet do you see RTS gamers complain about it?No.And the millions of shooter gamers out there do not care about 3 dimmensional characters
Thats what made StarCraft great and standout...
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PostSubject: Re: How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert)   How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert) - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 29, 2010 4:05 pm

Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Pickles wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....


Why aren't they supposed to? Will an FPS game actually get POINTS OFF for having 3-dimensional characters? That's fucking stupid.

Also it's not idiotic at all to criticize a game for having a flaw that the genre has had for the last couple of years. If it's a consistent flaw, all the more reason to criticize it.

I never said that genius.If a shooter has 3 dimensional characters thats great, good for them but its fucking stupid to complain about something that many FPS have.Shooters ARE NOT eant to have really good characters.never have been.Or look at the RTS genre.I garentee you wont find any RTS with 3 dimiensional characters other than starcraft.Yet do you see RTS gamers complain about it?No.And the millions of shooter gamers out there do not care about 3 dimmensional characters
Thats what made StarCraft great and standout...

No, it was its factions that made it stand out.Each faction was incredibly different but at the same time each faction was even.
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PostSubject: Re: How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert)   How Halo Reach Could Have Been Better(Spoiler Alert) - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 29, 2010 4:25 pm

Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Pickles wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....


Why aren't they supposed to? Will an FPS game actually get POINTS OFF for having 3-dimensional characters? That's fucking stupid.

Also it's not idiotic at all to criticize a game for having a flaw that the genre has had for the last couple of years. If it's a consistent flaw, all the more reason to criticize it.

I never said that genius.If a shooter has 3 dimensional characters thats great, good for them but its fucking stupid to complain about something that many FPS have.Shooters ARE NOT eant to have really good characters.never have been.Or look at the RTS genre.I garentee you wont find any RTS with 3 dimiensional characters other than starcraft.Yet do you see RTS gamers complain about it?No.And the millions of shooter gamers out there do not care about 3 dimmensional characters
Thats what made StarCraft great and standout...

No, it was its factions that made it stand out.Each faction was incredibly different but at the same time each faction was even.
So you're saying the characters had nothing to do with it? It was both.
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Arbiteris wrote:
Pickles wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Erm Arb...
I don't see why you can't have good characters in a FPS. Your using the excuse that no one else does it. So? If Halo did everything like everyone else, then it would just be another FPS.

No, im saying its stupid to critisze a FPS when shooters generally arent sopposed to and never do have deveoped characters.Its like critisizing a sports game for no story.

I mean yes, it would be great if Halo Reach had better developed characters but its stupid to complain about it if they dont.Besides, Halo Reach's charatcers die before the player can get to know them(which is understandable because it is based in a full scale war)
Sports =/= Shooter games. Sports OBVIOUSLY have no story. Shooters can absolutely have developed characters.
And I already told you generally doesn't cut it. The first games were generally platforming, people broke away from that.

Look, im just saying that critisizing a shooter for having not as developed characters is stupid.Yes, I know I shooter can have good characters but they usually dont so its kinda stupid critisizing Halo Reach for it when every shooter the last few years hasnt had good developed charatcers.Seriously.....


Why aren't they supposed to? Will an FPS game actually get POINTS OFF for having 3-dimensional characters? That's fucking stupid.

Also it's not idiotic at all to criticize a game for having a flaw that the genre has had for the last couple of years. If it's a consistent flaw, all the more reason to criticize it.

I never said that genius.If a shooter has 3 dimensional characters thats great, good for them but its fucking stupid to complain about something that many FPS have.Shooters ARE NOT eant to have really good characters.never have been.Or look at the RTS genre.I garentee you wont find any RTS with 3 dimiensional characters other than starcraft.Yet do you see RTS gamers complain about it?No.And the millions of shooter gamers out there do not care about 3 dimmensional characters

Why not?

Like I said, it's not stupid to complain about it.

Let's put it this way. Horror movies are notorious for having shitty characters(although there are exceptions).

People AREN'T supposed to overlook the bad characters and certainly not MOVIE CRITICS. It's a problem. Just because it's consistent doesn't mean it's okay. Certainly not with video games.




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Halo Reach is better than Black Ops. THIS IS FACT!

Don't kid yourself.
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Halo Reach is better than Black Ops. THIS IS FACT!

Don't kid yourself.

Lol, we need a facepalm emotion...
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GrandMasterZillah wrote:
theassassins wrote:
Halo Reach is better than Black Ops. THIS IS FACT!

Don't kid yourself.

Black Ops = Better but shorter campaign.
Halo Reach = Better multiplayer & features, and unlike COD, when you play Reach, Bungie isn't taking your money.
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DemonWolf wrote:
GrandMasterZillah wrote:
theassassins wrote:
Halo Reach is better than Black Ops. THIS IS FACT!

Don't kid yourself.

Black Ops = Better but shorter campaign.
Halo Reach = Better multiplayer & features, and unlike COD, when you play Reach, Bungie isn't taking your money.

The Black Ops multiplayer is pretty much MW2 but with CoD points. Reach atleast feels newer. But I do admit, I liked Black Ops campaign much better.
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Bump. Answer me Arbiteris, ya yellow-bellied coward piece of fuck.



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GrandMasterZillah wrote:
theassassins wrote:
Halo Reach is better than Black Ops. THIS IS FACT!

Don't kid yourself.

Faggot much?
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