Massive game flaws that we just accept

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/massive-game-flaws-that-we-just-accept/a-20100430121829494077

Notice something about that list? Most of the games are ps3 exclusives! SHIZAM!

On the contrary, I thought the mining mini-game in ME 2 was pretty addicting.

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Grand Theft Auto series

Flaws: Broken mission checkpoints, pop-up

Let's kick off with a controversial one, eh? Only the most blinkered GTA fan would suggest that it's perfect in every way. For us, especially with the earlier games, the mission restart points were a damn mess - often putting you miles away from a target that's a mega schlep to get to in the first place. Examples? How about the The Driver mission in Vice City? Here's a race against the AI where every second counts. Roll your car near the finish line and it's back to the start for you, sonny. Or I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots and Your Motorcycle in GTAIV that sees you chase a guy through the subway on a motorbike. Screw your bike into a wall and he's gone, leaving you to not only have to restart the mission again but to drive your way back over there too. Aside from the checkpoint faux-pas there's also the fact that at times when you're travelling at break-neck speed, the world - road, vehicles and buildings - disappear in front of your eyes.

Uncharted

Flaw: Identikit enemies

Nathan Drake - lover, fighter, adventurer and, umm, ethnic cleanser? Of course the last one is sensationalism at it's finest but think about it, most of the pirates that Uncharted's hero comes up against are identical and by the end of the game you've merked hundreds of them. Sure, they might try to fox us by wearing slightly different coloured hats, bandanas and vests, but they all look almost identical. Do we care or question this? Hell no. We're too busy reloading and lining up headshots to care.

Killzone 2

Flaw: Knife > guns

STAB! TWIST! KILL! Ah, the knife is perfect for those up close and personal kills in FPS games, but they should only ever be a last resort measure. The video above typifies the over-powered ability of the humble knife. You're playing a shooter, so why the heck would your most dangerous ally be a damn knife?
It's not only KZ2 that suffers this fate either. Battlefield Bad Company allows you to carve through a chain-link fence with a knife and the cutter in Modern Warfare 2 is more powerful than most of the rifles.

FIFA/Pro Evolution Soccer

Flaw: Player's inexplicably pulling up

Ah, a chipped long ball over your defence. You track the flight of the ball with your defender expertly while the chasing attacker is labouring behind. A simple back pass to the keeper and it's danger averted, except it isn't. More often than not your player will pull up as if their hamstring just twanged up their ass - leaving the forward to nip in a slot one home. Argh! This fault is as common place in football games as scoring an absolute screamer from outside the area. We understand that these things can happen in real-life but when you see it unfolding like a shit-stained blanket your fury is all ready to blame the game's scripting. And we won't be accepting human error anytime soon. Let's give this transparent momentum shift the red card, eh, developers?

Guitar Hero

Flaw: Not always playing guitar chords

Parts of songs that are *definitely* played on guitars - the incredible solo at the end of Lynard Skynard's Free Bird, the intro to Black Sabbath's Paranoid and most of the racket in The Sex Pistol's Pretty Vacant. Parts of songs that aren't - the flute bit in A-Punk by Vampire Weekend and countless more in Guitar Hero. Sure, the toy guitar is meant to make you feel like a genuine axe-wielder like Slash but when different instruments are tacked on just to fill some otherwise down time, the illusion is pissed upon. Only Peter Frampton can get away with making his guitar do different noises.

Gran Turismo series

Flaw: Using the walls as buffers

It's one thing not being able to suffer any damage to your ride for stoving it into a wall in Gran Turismo but it's another when blasting into it will barely slow you down. It's obvious that Polyphony want you to be able reach incredible speeds but when the tracks are essentially glorified bobsleigh runs it detracts from The Real Driving Simulator moniker. Obviously, current gen technology should fix this in future iterations so hopefully we won't see the bouncy walls return.

SingStar

Flaw: Forcing you to sing unnaturally

Whether you have the voice of an angel, the squeal of cat being skinned alive or are practically tone deaf you know roughly how your favourite songs sound. You know when the singer goes up to the high notes and deep down to the Barry White ones. SingStar couldn't care less about that as it forces you to sing to their rules like some sort of Nazi music teacher. There are bits in David Bowie's Let's Dance that are clearly trying to make you hold a note when a note isn't needed to be held. You can tell because the Thin White Duke can be heard in the background starting the next line a second before you. But if you want the top score then you must abide by the guidance bars. ABIDE!

Flaw: Plot holes, obviously

We're not here to rag on Quantic Dream's interactive movie just for the hell of it. In fact, I personally enjoyed it thoroughly. But there are some ludicrous plot holes that muddied the waters of Heavy Rain. Dave H did a whole feature on them. http://www.gamesradar.com/f/heavy-rains-big-plot-holes/a-20100224105436979020 The game lives and dies on the big reveal - who the killer really is. In more than a few ways, Heavy Rain loses the run of itself but there's a stand-out one that is criminal. Certain paths put you in sole control of Madison and when she goes to the hospital to coax an old lady to 'fessing up about who her killer offspring is she leaves aghast as she hears the name. Except during this one play through Madison never came in contact with the murderer. She never had anyone tell her this person's name. Never crossed paths with them. Nothing. Maybe she was visibly gob-smacked that the developers had forgot to fill in this gaping plot hole.

Mass Effect 2

Flaw: The whole mining thing

In an otherwise beauty of an RPG, there's one thing that breaks its balls - the mining minigame. OK, OK, we know that you can completely bypass these sub-quests but if you're going to level up your weapons and other gear then you're going to be scanning planets a lot. It wouldn't have been so bad if scanning an entire planet for resources flew by in a few seconds but instead... it... can... plod... on... for... lightyears.

Resistance 2

Flaws: Pathetic team mates, invisible trigger points

We often wonder why a lot of FPS games bother to team you up with a group of AI grunts. Team-mates? Nah. They're simply a distraction that must be killing the chimera off screen because they sure as hell aren't blasting the ones that are in front of you, peppering Nathan Hale with bullets. Pointless. If you're going to be a bullet sponge the least you could hope for is a little help, eh? And that's not the only problem, as you can tell by the text above. Invisible trigger points. The swamp in Resistance 2, where the invisible aliens leap out at you, is an example. You've got the shotgun cocked, you know they're coming but unless you step into the correct zone of the swamp they won't appear. It feels a little old as a gaming device but it appears in other like Modern Warfare, Killzone 2 and more FPS games.

All those PS3 exclusive examples are completely valid. The Mass Effect 2 one is not. PS3 games are all flawed that's what makes them PS3 games.

Yeah the Mass Effect 2 makes an assumption or the technology in the Mass Effect universe. Maybe they don't have the capacity to search entire planets in seconds. And also that would just be stupid if you can get thousands of minerals in seconds and just level up stuff.

Scripted boss battles are the main flaw in Resistance 2.

I agree that the Mass Effect 2 mining issue has been taken way out of hand. Yes, it does suck only until you get the advanced mineral scanner. It would also suck if you bothered to mine planets that weren't rich. It's just people being too lazy.

Lol I like how they put so many PS3 exclusives as examples...That must of mad some fanboys mad.

Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumbasses.

BlackStigma wrote:

Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumbasses.

Actually dumbasses are the ones who think Poopstation 3 games aren't poopy. Mass Effect 2 is GOTY material. All Pissstation 3 exclusives are piss. Poopy piss.

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumbasses.

Actually dumbasses are the ones who think Poopstation 3 games aren't poopy. Mass Effect 2 is GOTY material. All Pissstation 3 exclusives are piss. Poopy piss.

"Massive game flaws that we just accept"

It sounded like you were half joking with your other post, but there's no covering up for it. It's there, it happens, and it's a bitch.

BlackStigma wrote:

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumbasses.

Actually dumbasses are the ones who think Poopstation 3 games aren't poopy. Mass Effect 2 is GOTY material. All Pissstation 3 exclusives are piss. Poopy piss.

"Massive game flaws that we just accept"

It sounded like you were half joking with your other post, but there's no covering up for it. It's there, it happens, and it's a bitch.

Your understanding of sarcasm is poopy.

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumbasses.

Actually dumbasses are the ones who think Poopstation 3 games aren't poopy. Mass Effect 2 is GOTY material. All Pissstation 3 exclusives are piss. Poopy piss.

"Massive game flaws that we just accept"

It sounded like you were half joking with your other post, but there's no covering up for it. It's there, it happens, and it's a bitch.

Your understanding of sarcasm is poopy.

Lol,the guys at ps3 nation are making threads on you.They are taking everything you say seriously

lol guys, every game has it's serious flaws. Even a lot of 360 exclusives. It's just that the haven't been put on here.
Examples:
Gears has that really sort of greyish colour scheme and not a lot of colour!! :O
Fable has no jump button!
Halo 3 has....errm....not the best campaign ever! lol

Well, it's hard to say serious flaws about 360 games but there are some so don't act as if only ps3 exclusives have issues. Every game in existance has some irritating problem.s

BlackStigma wrote:

Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumbasses.

Some people are THAT ignorant I guess.

that list is a little on the biast side.... you gotta admit. uncharted:indetikit (lol maybe he means identical) enemies. all the halo games have grunts, brutes, elites, and jackals..

" Hmm, you guys bash the PS3 exclusives but defend Mass Effect 2? lol you guys sound like dumb asses."
completely true. every game has flaws. or else all games would be 100/100 on metacritic

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

HellJumper wrote:

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

It's not just being biased, it's being hypocritical. Like how some say PS3 fanboys hype the hell out of their games and act like they're gifts from Jesus, yet some here do the same. It's hilarious and stupid.

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

It's not just being biased, it's being hypocritical. Like how some say PS3 fanboys hype the hell out of their games and act like they're gifts from Jesus, yet some here do the same. It's hilarious and stupid.

no we like to gloat about the games they hype and then the games dont sell and dont get the reviews they were saying they would get.

Don't assume a game is good just because it's releasing on a console you own and then assume a game is trash because it's on a console you don't own. That applies to all people.

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

All those PS3 exclusive examples are completely valid. The Mass Effect 2 one is not. PS3 games are all flawed that's what makes them PS3 games.

disagree man the mining in mass effect 2 almost drove me insane!!!

Alot of games have bad AI partners *cough* Gears *cough* but that doesn't distract you from the EPICNESS of most games.

And guys, I know this is an Xbox forum, and you can feel free to be fanboys all you like but still, just because it is a PS3 exclusive doesn't mean it sucks. I have had some of my greatest gaming moments on PS3.

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

It's not just being biased, it's being hypocritical. Like how some say PS3 fanboys hype the hell out of their games and act like they're gifts from Jesus, yet some here do the same. It's hilarious and stupid.

You dont get what I was saying

If you joined this forum without suspecting fanboys then you are a dumbass.So if you did expect them,then why the hell are you complaining?You DID decide to join the forum afterall.

HellJumper wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

It's not just being biased, it's being hypocritical. Like how some say PS3 fanboys hype the hell out of their games and act like they're gifts from Jesus, yet some here do the same. It's hilarious and stupid.

You dont get what I was saying

If you joined this forum without suspecting fanboys then you are a dumbass.So if you did expect them,then why the hell are you complaining?You DID decide to join the forum afterall.

What are you on about? I knew there were fanboys here, but some of you guys are acting even worse than PS3 fanboys. And I'm ridiculing you guys for it.

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

It's not just being biased, it's being hypocritical. Like how some say PS3 fanboys hype the hell out of their games and act like they're gifts from Jesus, yet some here do the same. It's hilarious and stupid.

You dont get what I was saying

If you joined this forum without suspecting fanboys then you are a dumbass.So if you did expect them,then why the hell are you complaining?You DID decide to join the forum afterall.

What are you on about? I knew there were fanboys here, but some of you guys are acting even worse than PS3 fanboys. And I'm ridiculing you guys for it.

1. You failed to detect the sarcasm that I was laying on pretty damn thick so maybe your judgment isn't something we should take without a grain of salt.

2. It's impossible for anyone to be worse than a PS3 fanboy. Well unless they're an Apple fanboy who is also a PS3 fanboy. Now that would be worse than a child molesting Nazi.

3. Grow some kind of a sense of humor or you'll be doomed to be ridiculed for the lack thereof.

343_Guilty_Spark wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

HellJumper wrote:

Anyone who complains about people here being biased sounds like a dumbass,seeing as they joined this forum.Think about it

It's not just being biased, it's being hypocritical. Like how some say PS3 fanboys hype the hell out of their games and act like they're gifts from Jesus, yet some here do the same. It's hilarious and stupid.

You dont get what I was saying

If you joined this forum without suspecting fanboys then you are a dumbass.So if you did expect them,then why the hell are you complaining?You DID decide to join the forum afterall.

What are you on about? I knew there were fanboys here, but some of you guys are acting even worse than PS3 fanboys. And I'm ridiculing you guys for it.

1. You failed to detect the sarcasm that I was laying on pretty damn thick so maybe your judgment isn't something we should take without a grain of salt.

2. It's impossible for anyone to be worse than a PS3 fanboy. Well unless they're an Apple fanboy who is also a PS3 fanboy. Now that would be worse than a child molesting Nazi.

3. Grow some kind of a sense of humor or you'll be doomed to be ridiculed for the lack thereof.

yeh cuz people can totally detect the sarcasm over the internet?